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and we continue on, ton of the hour, i'm brooke baldwin. you're watching cnn. we begin with this freed american overwhelmed with emotion, tight fighting back tears. peter theo curtis was held hostage for nearly two years by militants in syria. and just this morning, journalists in cambridge, massachusetts, offering thanks to the hundreds of people who offered help for his release. the relief in his eyes were a stark contrast to this, these grim images. he was held by al-nusra, a syrian group with ties to al qaeda. >> first of all, i want to thank you all for coming out here on this beautiful wednesday morning.
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in the days following my release on sunday, i have learned bit by bit that there have been literally hundreds of people, brave, determined and big-hearted people, all over the world, working for my release. they have been working for two years on this. i had no idea when i was in prison. i had no idea that so much effort was being expended on my behalf. and now having found out, i am just overwhelmed with emotion. i'm also overwhelmed by one other thing, and that is that total strangers have been coming up to me and saying, hey, we're just glad you're home. welcome home. glad you're back. glad you're safe. great to see you. so i sudden low remember how good the american people are, and what kindness they have in their hearts. and to all of those people, i say, a huge thank you from my heart, from the bottom of my heart. and now, look, i am so grateful that you are expressing all this
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interest in me. at the same time, i have to bond with my mother and my family now. and i can't give you an interview, and i can't give you talk back and forth. >> can you tell us what it feels like? >> and that's -- all i can say to you. but in the future, i promise, i will respond to your e-mails and i will be present and i will help you guys do your job. and i'm one of you and i know what you guys are going through, so i want to help you guys, and i will be there, and i will respond. but i can't do it now. thanks very much. >> so for peter theo curtis, he gets to come home. but for captured american journalist, james foley, he never got to. he was beheaded by isis militants. and then american steven sotloff is still being held by that same group, by isis. my next guest says war reporting may not be worth it in the long run now. tom peter survived a kidnapping nightmare in syria. it was november 2012 in aleppo.
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tom, you wrote about this in the new republic. let me hear it first in your words. take me from when the gunman jumps in the car. >> yeah. i had been reporting in syria on and off since this summer. and, you know, at that time, the moderates were the groups that held kind of the most sway in syria. and we were just starting to see the rise of these kind of conservative islamist groups that sort of morphed into the islamic state and others. so, yeah, we -- i was with a group of journalists, and some guys cut us off on the road and, you know, a gunman jumps into our car and drove us back to their base. and i mean, i guess fortunately for us, we had -- you know, we had a very different outcome than these other journalists. i want to make clear my experience was different and very brief compared to these other your deals. but it's very terrifying and probably one of the worst experiences i've had in seven years of working in the middle east and covering conflict. >> you know what struck me in
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reading your piece, you wrote with cutting through the city and a gun man following close behind, escape was impossible. i lean back in the seat, devastated that i had wasted my life. this wasn't my country. it wasn't my war. and now i would die for it in a horrible way. how do you mean wasted your life, wasn't your war? >> well, you know, i guess before i was working in syria, i had done a lot of work in iraq and afghanistan. and while i was in those places, certainly america obviously has a very strong interest in those places, given the u.s. presence. and so i felt like i had a very kind of strong reason, you know, kind of a higher purpose for being there and it was important for america to know. and when i got to syria, i thought, okay, well, you know, this is an internal kind of conflict, and, you know, really what am i doing here? and, you know, i guess on a broader level since i've been back, i started to ask a lot of questions, not just about work in syria, but, you know, what
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journalist -- why we're going into any dangerous place, given kind of a lack of interest that i have observed being back here in the u.s. >> how do you mean, lack of interest? i mean, you talk about -- you haven't obviously gone back over there. you spent years covering and bravely so what's been happening in the middle east. but what has changed within the american populus, do you think, that makes you say forget it, i don't want to be a war correspondent anymore? >> yeah. well, certainly i don't speak in absolutes. i might go back to another war. i won't say i won't stop. i think about it differently. and for me, i spent so many years overseas without interacting with kind of everyday americans and talking to them about what they think about the news, what they're reading, what they're watching. and what's really surprised me is just how hyper partisan things are right now. and how -- i guess how little americans are willing to actually take the time to
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educate themselves with news stories or books out there, and, you know, quite large numbers. and yet they have very strong opinions. so i guess i've just had way too many conversations with people where they're arguing with me about, you know, something in the middle east or an area that i reported in, and it becomes very clear to me that they haven't really read past the headlines, and they have some very strong beliefs. so i guess it's hard for me sometimes to think about news reporting now as something more than the average news consumer is going to look at it, try to find something that supports what they already believe, and if we report something that happen that isn't in line with what someone believes, it seems like it often gets disregarded and we're called biased or they say we're working with some kind of hidden agenda. and it's just ridiculous to me. i could be doing a lot of other things, and making a much better living. so it's really crazy to me when people say those kinds of things. >> it is. it was an eye-open are for sure, your piece.
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thank you so much. tom peter. i appreciate your openness and your candor, and let's talk now about the mother of captured american journalist, steven sotloff. because she now is begging terrorists to spare her son's life. isis militants kidnapped her 31 year-old son while he was reporting in syria. his mother appealed directly to the leader of isis. >> since steven's capture, i've learned a lot about islam. i've learned that islam teaches that no individual should be held responsible for the sins of others. steven has no control over the actions of the u.s. government. he's an innocent journalist. i've always learned that you, the kalive, can grant amnesty. i ask you to please release my child. >> her son briefly shown in that isis video released last week, showing the execution of another american journalist, james
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foley. the militant in the video, warren sotloff's fate, depends upon what president barack obama does next in iraq. the u.s. militant announced fresh air strikes in iraq hours ago. how will sotloff's captors respond to this plea from his mother? in half an hour, we'll talk to a former fbi agent who specialized in negotiations. he'll explain what strategy he would use to try to free this american journalist. now to the ebola crisis in west africa. the cdc, the centers for disease control in atlanta, says one of its own workers now, who has returned to the u.s. from that region, may have been exposed to ebola. how significant is this? let's go straight to our senior medical correspondent, elizabeth cohen, live in atlanta. and elizabeth, what is the cdc saying? >> brooke, the cdc is saying this person was in sierra leone, working next to, within three feet of someone who later turned out to have ebola. and this person was actively ill.
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so they said the cdc worker, it was time for them to go home, so we're going to take you home but on a private, chartered plane just in case you do get sick, you won't be with a whole plane full of other people. and the cdc is very clear on this. they said, look, this person does not pose a risk to the public at this time, because number one. >> it was a low-risk situation. they were working next to someone, weren't touching his vomit or anything like that. and secondly, this cdc person is perfectly healthy, has shown no symptoms whatsoever. and you can only transmit ebola if you're actively ill. so this person is taking their temperature twice a day. if they do get sick, it's a whole different story. but right now, this worker has returned to atlanta, and they can go to work, run around, do whatever they want. >> wow, so no isolation, continue monitoring. when will they know that he or she will be in the clear? >> 21 days. so this exposure happened about a week ago, so we have about another two weeks left. and -- but in the meantime, they are free to go, as i said, wherever they want. because they are not actively
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ill. >> okay. elizabeth cohen, keep us posted on the status of the patient. hopefully he/she will be a-okay. appreciate it very much. and you know the story we have been covering out of ferguson, missouri. an unarmed black man, michael brown, shot and killed by a white police officer. that story, as you know, sparked protests national outrage. next, a story in a similar vein. but this is a male shot and killed by a police officer while leaving a convenience store. his family says he was unarmed, didn't deserve to die. coming up next, we'll talk to his family member about what happened, and why there hasn't been the same reaction as ferguson. when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country,
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you're watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. we begin now with this unarmed man shot and killed by police. officers say he wasn't cooperating. witnesses say he was unarmed. and i'm not talking about michael brown in ferguson, missouri. this is the story of dylan taylor in salt lake city. back on august 11th, an officer shot and killed taylor who was 20 years of age after he left with a brother and friend. an official from south salt lake police told affiliate ktvx that officers confronted taylor in response to a previous 911 call. >> there was a man with a gun waving a gun around. those officers responded to this area. happened to be nearby. and they encountered that male ma matched that description and he became agitated when they
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verbally challenged him. >> similar to ferguson, protests have followed after the shooting. and just like in ferguson, police are keeping much information to themselves, including the officer's name and whether taylor had a weapon. but salt lake's police chief defendses the investigation. >> we have an unfortunate incident where dylan taylor lost his life. but i cannot stress enough that this is not ferguson. in a homicide, i don't call you all together and say here is all the evidence i have on this homicide. we reserve that for the process, because is there a due process. >> on the phone with me now, from west valley city, utah, taylor's aunt gina, who helped raise dylan after his parents passed away six years ago. gina, welcome. and i am so sorry for your loss. >> thank you, brooke. and i'm happy to be here. >> let's just begin with facts. i want you to tell me what you
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know about what happened to your nephew. what have police explained to you? >> actually, police haven't explained anything to me. i didn't even get a courtesy call to say that anything had happened. i actually received a phone call from my son, which is dylan's cousin, that night and he had told me that dylan had been shot and killed. the guys -- the three boys, dylan, jarel and adam were all on a bus, public transportation. they were going up to the city cemetery to see their parents' grave. and they had just met up in salt lake. they stepped off the bus, they went into that convenience store. went in, got a drink, everything was fine. dylan had his ear buds in his ear. the three boys came out of the store. they were commanded to get on
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the ground. and like i said, dylan had his head buds in. he started wandering off the other way. the two other boys complied. dylan -- two officers followed behind him, two were in front of him. it was told to me my son and jarel that one officer had said for him to place his hands above his head. another officer had said to get on the ground. by this time, obviously, dylan had realized that, you know, he was being followed, he took his head buds out. he reached to pull up his pants so he could kneel down on the ground and he was then shot directly in the chest. as well as the stomach. >> so he was shot and killed. and i just -- i have to ask why -- if you've heard from other accounts from people who were there with him why he didn't listen to police.
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why he didn't comply like the others did from the beginning. >> my understanding, it's because they don't believe he actually heard the command. he had the ear buds in. >> got it. >> he was listening to music. and you know, he started wandering a different direction than the other two guys. now mind you, my confusion with all of this, you know, i have a lot of confusion about it, because like i said, you know, the police have not really been very cooperative as far as giving us a whole lot of information. the only thing that i get out of them is it's under investigation. by different organizations are investigating this case. >> well, we're trying to help -- >> in the meantime -- >> forgive me. we're just trying to get -- we're trying to help get more information. obviously, we made phone calls to salt lake police who told us, maybe this is news to you, that the case may go to the
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prosecutor as early as the next week. and then the police chief also said that the officer who fired the shot was actually wearing a body camera. i know, gina, you asked to see the video, just speaking of what police have and haven't shared with you. have they been willing to share that video with you? what have they said to you about that? >> no. they absolutely will not. chief burbanks' exact words, why would we reveal our most valuable evidence that we have? and my response is, why wouldn't you? you know, they have not revealed to the public that dylan was not arm. they have not revealed to the public the 911 call. none of us are aware of any of this. i find it really peculiar that i have people contacting me and saying, hey, i was across the street. you know, if there was chaos,
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somebody waving a gun around, don't you think that the store -- everybody would be in an uproar? there was business as usual. there was nothing different. i don't know. i don't know. it has so much confusion, you know. and it was a -- it was in a salt lake city jurisdiction. no. let me get this right. >> south salt lake city. >> south salt lake city jurisdiction and salt lake city plouffe wpolice officer was the one who killed dylan. >> i hope you're able to get more information in this time as recovering shootings, all very, very different. but the need for transparency is apparent. clearly here. gina, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to me. i really appreciate it. we're going to stay on that and other stories we've been covering. but let me move along to a story that has a lot of other people talking today. have you seen this video? this 9-year-old little girl shooting an uzi at a gun range
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accidentally shoots and kills her instructor. and the whole thing is caught on camera. question. should she have been handling such a powerful gun in the first place? where were her parents? we also have news whether or not police say she or her family will face charges. that's next. plus, we're learning more about the american killed fighting for the isis group in syria. also his family, did they see any warning signs. stay with me. you're watching cnn.
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. all right. we have to talk about this arizona shooting. call it a freak accident, call it a bad, bad, bad idea from the
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very beginning. it has left one man dead and a little girl just absolutely devastated. she has to be. here's the video. it was 9-year-old, you know, complete with a ponytail and pink shorts handling an uzi. you can see her shooting instructor to her side, trying to teach her how to do this. sheriff's officials have just announced in the wake of this shooting death, there will be no charges. and we're showing you this video here from this gun range just to help you understand what happened. this instructor was giving this little girl a lesson, little girl lives in new jersey. now take a listen. >> okay, turn this leg forward. there you go. just like that. cool. all right. go ahead and give me one shot. all right! >> so the mojave county sheriff says seconds after that clip, the girl pulled the trigger again and it was the recoil from that uzi sent the gun actually over her head. that's when her instructor,
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39-year-old charles vacca, was hit and killed. >> well, a 9-year-old gets an uzi in her hand when -- they're within the criteria is years old to shoot firearms. we instruct kids as young as 5 and .22 rifles. they're under the supervision of their parents and of our professional range master. >> let's talk about this with radio talk show host, cnn political commentator and gun rights advocate, ben ferguson here. as a gun rights activist, you, my friend, have an issue with this. >> yeah, i just -- you don't give a gun like this to a young girl in this way. that clip should never have been filled, because it's going to recoil. there should have been maybe two or three bullets, let mer try that. and he should have been behind her not beside her. you're talking about a 9-year-old here. you're going to be nervous. exciting at the same time. of course when you're getting those instructions you may not be getting it all. i would not hand this gun to a lot of adults, even, without first seeing how they handle one or two shots because then at least it's not going to get away
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from you. this young girl, it's not her fault. she should not have been in the situation. >> help me understand, for people who have never shot this kind of weapon this kind of recoil, what does it feel like? >> it's serious. it's a whole another world. it's like if you shoot a locale ber gun, you can enjoy it, have a great time. the bigger it gets, the scarier it is. i take my wife to the range and she hates my gun. she'll shoot it. she doesn't like it. and that's not even fully automatic. that's a handgun, a pistol. this will rise up on you, just like this little girl. if you don't realize how powerful it is and you're not stationary, feet side by side, and shoot it, you're going to go backwar backwards. you've got to know what you're doing. and this instructor, i hate to say it, but should have had his hands on that gun. should never have loaded that clip up. once it starts going off, it's going to get away from you if you don't know what you're doing. >> so it's horrible, tragic. >> absolutely. >> for the instructor and the instructor's family. then i can't help but think about these parents who for everything i've read, you know, were there. >> yeah. >> she's 9 years of age.
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>> this is like taking your kid to get an an atv and you give them a governor. you don't give them the key that lets them go full-out. >> how are there not rules, ben ferguson? >> well. >> is it normal at a gun range, 9 years of age, to be able to shooting is like this? >> i have never seen a gun range person stand beside you while shooting an automatic weapon. i've never seen that. that's the first issue. the second, i don't think you have to judge by the person. age doesn't matter with the gun in this situation. >> is it size, height? >> it is. are you comfortable with it. if you're not comfortable with it, you shouldn't be shooting it. it's not even the gun. it's more, are you around guns, should you put a young child in the situation. under an instructor, never load the clip up, because once you pull that trigger, it's going to go until it's empty. and they're coming so fast, even in a controlled environment, this was a bad decision. put two or three in there. see how she does. even then it may rise a couple inches. it's not going to go behind you.
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>> she's 9. this is the kind of thing she'll remember the rest of her life. >> i hope they get her the counseling she needs. honestly, everyone should be telling her this is not her fault. this is an accident. but it's not her fault. and i hope that she gets all the help she needs. this is going to be something that's going to haunt her. and it's not her fault. >> ben, thank you so much. ben ferguson. coming up, a mysterious disappearance that has investigators absolutely baffled. this american was last seen five days ago hiking near jerusalem. hear what his brother says he was doing in that part of the world. and a family in shock. this american man killed while fighting for isis in syria. his family is speaking publicly about what they knew and when, and we're learning a lot more about him from his presence on social media. what he was tweeting about. that's next. at the lexus golden opportunity sales event, you'll discover what happens when we break the rules. the rules that said a luxury car should be powered by gasoline only. we introduced the world's first luxury hybrid.
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we are just past the bottom of the hour, you're watching cnn. we are now getting word that a second american may have been killed fighting alongside isis. the u.s. government has not confirmed this. the claim comes, though, from a coalition of syrian opposition groups that released this, the american passport of douglas mccarthur mccain, who we do now know was killed fighting with isis in a suburb of aleppo. mccain was 33 years of age. he had a child. grew up in the midwest. of was raised christian. had converted to islam. and a friend recalls him as a nice, quiet kid with a big heart
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and enjoyed basketball. mccain did have some minor scrapes with the law, but in the wake of everything, his family absolutely stunned. >> i feel like maybe it was some people he was hanging out with. because that's not who he is. he's not isis. he's not a terrorist. he's a happy person. he's close with family. you know, very close with his mom. and his child. like, i don't -- believe that. >> so she is, you know, incredulous. but when you look at his twitter page, you saw his twitter bio saying he's increasingly sympathic with isis, put him squarely in the sights with u.s. intelligence. u.s. sources tell us mccain was on a terrorist watch list. and we have been talking about options for taking on isis in syria. now let's talk about iraq. we can't point out enough that isis had declared itself a
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state, having carved out parts of both syria and iraq. and so when you look at the map, what you see in red here, that is territory either controlled or contested by isis and the group is essentially trying to build that section out. as it has done in other areas, isis is killing and driving out shiite muslims. these are the desperate shiites and this may look very familiar. it's a video shot this week showing these desperate iraqi shiites being flown away from an isis advance north of baghdad. and cnn's anna coren is with us now from erbil in northern iraq, the region controlled by the kurds. and anna, you had had a car bomb in erbil as recently as last weekend. what is the state of play now between isis and the kurds? >> reporter: well, yes. car bomb here, as well as isis militants very much on the doorstep of erbil, which as you say, is the capital of
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kurdistan. i have to say, isis militants are very much on the back foot ever since those u.s. air strikes began more than two weeks ago, brooke. the reason being, they are taking out those key positions, the artillery, the mortars, the vehicles, the humvees. american humvees, mind you they seize from the iraqi army after they fled. so they are, you know, making gains on the battlefield allowing the kurdish forces with the help of the iraqi commandos to take back important places like mosul dam where we were last week, the very critical piece of infrastructure. but 101 air strikes today. that's what we're hearing from u.s. central command. some around erbil, as well as mosul dam. so fighting still continuing there. but we have to remember that isis still controls one-third of iraq, brooke. and their headquarters are very much in mosul, second-largest city in iraq.
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1.5 million people living there. so certainly there are methods of getting around iraq change because of u.s. air strikes. then they are looking at other methods, such as car bombing suicide bombings. we were in kirkuk yesterday, 100 kilometers south of here and officials say they have arrested dozens of isis militants. and they also believe, brooke, there are sleeper cells down there. so isis still agitating, still trying to disrupt communities. really still trying to create fear and panic amongst civilians here. >> anna coren, thank you. let's stay on this since we're talking about icis and iraq. i want you to listen something, bob baer, our national security analyst. i want you to listen closely. he made several alarming points. here's one. >> this chaos or this state or call it whatever you want, is going to move down into the gulf, where 60% of the world's oil resources sit. i don't like to put it in terms of oil. but we better look at this realistically. >> you hear that word?
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oil? let's go to one of our other go-to guys, jim clancy, cnn international. you heard it. he said the magic word, oil. so you have major oil fields in the north around kirkuk and isis isn't far from there now. that's the red section. to get to the major oil fields in the south. isis would first have to battle through baghdad and then access other hostile territory. should the u.s., jim clancy, be worried? >> well, the u.s. has to be concerned. and this is why president obama is trying to accelerate the drawing up, if you will, of a battle plan. how are we going to deal with isis? the u.s. has to have a strategy. no, it's not going to be as simple as isis, you know, marching through one city after another. as anna correctly pointed out there in erbil, they're seeing the prospect, in kirkuk seeing the prospect that there are isis activists, isis supporters that
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will carry out car bombings. this has been one of the tragic realities of life for the iraqi people for a dozen years or more. i mean, the iraqis have been through this, now going through another round of it. obviously, isis is filling any void it can find. any dissatisfaction it can find. and certainly, oil is very much on its mind. but moreover, oil is on the minds of those sunny tribal leaders, brooke. the ones who threw in, you know, their fate with isis, because of their frustration of not sharing power, and yes, sharing money with nouri al maliki's regime. they felt left out, they wanted to sit at the table, they wanted a share of the pie. not getting it, they threw in their lot with isis. could that be turned around? only if there was a deal with the iraqi government and those sunni tribes. >> so there's that. then there was, you know, when bob baer speaks, we listen. and one other point he made. this is a guy who has been a cia agent, analyst for years and years. and he told us the middle east
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now is the worst he has seen it in 40 years. would you agree with that? >> i agree with him. i mean, you know, i lived in the middle east, brooke. and it's the worst that i've seen it. it's falling apart at the seams. power vacuums everywhere. and these radical groups are taking over. another sage, if you will, in all of this is rammy curry, the palestinian lebanese commentator out of beirut and says look at the source. if you want the solution to isis, you have to look at the source, and the source has been the frustration of arab and muslim people in the middle east for one dictatorship after another. one regime that was all about one or two people or one family and the vast majority of people were left out. that frustration first vented as the arab spring and now just exploding across the map. >> jim clancy, thank you. coming up, a mother makes a plea to the leader of isis. the terror group holder her son hostage. we'll talk to a former fbi agent
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who specializes in negotiations. and the search to find this missing american. the 23-year-old was hiking in jerusalem five days ago. and he hasn't been seen since. and now his family is trying to get the word out. his brother spoke to cnn and explained what he was doing in israel. we'll share his story and their plea, next. you're driving along,
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day five in the search for an american hiker missing and the forest outside of jerusalem. search teams are frantically looking for this 23-year-old, aaron sofer. authorities say he disappeared while just walking with a friend. and now his family is desperate to find him. even offered a $28,000 reward via social media. aaron's father flew from new jersey to join the search for his son. joining me now is "the lead's" jake tapper who spoke with aaron's brother. jake, what did the brother tell you? do they have any leads? >> reporter: the last time i spoke with the family and when i contacted the israeli police today, still no leads on the disappearance of 23-year-old aaron sofer. he was walking in jerusalem forest with a friend last friday before the sabbath. and they were both going down an incline at different -- separate from each other. and aaron disappeared. here is what his brother, joel, had to say when i spoke with him yesterday. do police seem to have any idea
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where your brother might be? >> i don't have any idea. they were searching and searching. and, you know, that place where the forest was where he got lost, i actually was over there today. on site. and, you know, there is nothing. they have no evidence, they can't find anything. he's a very, very good boy. and he was just, you know -- now they have -- they don't have any -- he was just going on a little to take a little break. >> hundreds of police and volunteers have been searching since he was reported having disappeared. here's the thing, though, brooke. first of all, the jerusalem forest is not terribly big. i believe it's only about 400 acres. it's shrunk since it was first created in the 1950s. and second of all, this is the chilling part of the story. this is the same forest where the body of mohamed kadir, the
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palestinian boy who was killed -- >> oh, wow --. -- thought as as a revenge killing for the three israeli boys kidnapped and killed. this is where the body of mohamed kadir was discovered southwest of jerusalem. obviously in the current climate in israel, that is a big concern. >> sure. it's definitely on the minds of his family and father who wants to find his son and bring him home. jake, we'll look for the interview in its entirety at the top of the hour. thank you, sir. "the lead" with jake tapper at 4:00 eastern here on cnn. coming up next, the mother of a journalist held hostage by isis came forward today, begged for her son's release. so next we'll talk to a former fbi agent who actually specialized in negotiations. what would be a strategy here to try to convince this terror group to free this american? we'll talk about that with him, next. ñ
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pleading with the head of isis to release her son. i'm talking about journalist steven sotloff. he's been missing for a year. he was shown in the same video of the beheading of james foley. sotloff's fate rests with president obama's next moves in iraq. the al arabiya tv network showed a video today of sotloff's mother pleading with the leader of isis to let her son any.
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. >> i've learned that islam teaches that no individual should be held responsible for the since of others. steven has no con rotrol over t actions of the u.s. government. he's an innocent journalist. i've always learned that you can grant amnesty. i ask you to please release my child. as a mother, i ask your justice to be merciful and not punish my son for matters he has no control over. i ask you to use your authority to spare his life and to follow the examples set by the prophet muhammad who protected people of the book. i want what every mother wants, to on live to see her children's children. i plead with you to grant me this. >> plea from a mother and here is chris voss, former lead international kidnapping negotiator for the fbi.
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chris, i mean, a lot to talk about here out of this vid weov. what do you think that miss sotloff has been hearing behind the scenes be it from state department officials or isis themselveses? >> thank you for having me on, brooke. as far as what she's hearing behind the scenes there must be a lot of people who don't know for sure what's going on. i know that's very undefined right now and in james foley's case there was silence from isis prior to the things, the cowardly things they did when they murdered him and more than likely they're hearing a lot of silence from isis now. >> so then why now release this video, this emotional plea to this -- to the man, the khalif that she calls him. why now? >> this is a good idea right now. she demonstrated a lot of courage and a lot of respect. i'm very respect with how courageous she was with this video and with all things
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considered and especially with the recent events it's probably best for her to try to make a direct appeal in a very respectful way to find out whether or not the person she's appealing with thinks enough of themselves to recognize that respect. >> so you say she's brave. in what circumstance could this -- could this prove to be hurtful or -- or maybe not the best thing to do? >> i don't think there's any way that there's any down side to this. i don't think it's particularly hurtful and there aren't a lot of reasons that are hurtful to indicate the threat is very high. this is probably the best thing to do. i think this is the smartest thing for her to do and she needs to show that her son is from an honorable programly and that she's an honorable, respectful person. >> it's interesting in talking to folks like you who have done negotiating before, we are talking about negotiating with isis. abu bakr al baghdadi is who
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she's addressing. what would one need to appeal to from a group as brutal as this to get them to stop and listen to this mother's plea? >> well, this group is very brutal and each group like this even though we don't like their rules they have their own rules and by her communicating with them in this fashion, she's demonstrated a recognition and respect for these rules. she talks about the fact that the prophet protected people of the book which is true, and muslims have a history of doing that for those that recognize their authority in appropriate circumstances. she's simply demonstrating a respect for their history and who they are and if they are worthy of that respect they'll respond. >> what are the chances, chris, that the message has been received by baghdady? >> in circumstances like this, the very frightening thing that the family faces is that their chances for success are slim and none. it's an extremely long shot and it talks a lot of courage
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knowing that the odds are against you in the first place. >> chris voss, thank you so much. >> thanks for having me on. >> hopefully her son can be returned safely and healthily. a quick break. we're back after this. your 16-year-old daughter
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pictures out of malibu. you see these waves here.
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these are monster waves as a result of hurricane marie and it's pushing huge waves into southern california beaches and depending on who you ask you see the guy here, you know, it could be a serious threat and it could be awesome for some surfers. the national weather service issued a beach hazard and high surf warnings for more than 100 miles north of l.a. i'm brooke baldwin. in the meantime, "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. how quickly being the u.s. role in syria turn from eyes on the sky to bombs on the ground? i'm jake tapper. this is the lead. the world lead, president obama has given the green light to surveillance flights over syria, but the real question is will he authorize strikes against isis and if so, what is he waiting for some also -- >> i ask you to please release my child. >> the desperate plea from a mother of an american journalist to the isis terrorists